
05 May đ¤ Discomfort Is the Assignment: What Improv Taught Me About Growth
đHey there Podcaster!
Last week on the Podcasting Morning Chat, we leaned all the way into discomfortâand what it can unlock when we stop avoiding it. From my own improv stage debut, we explored how choosing discomfort can crack open real growth. Then we took flightâliterallyâwith Rich and Drew from Two Guys on a Plane, who dropped in to share how they turned memes into a magnetic brand before they ever launched a podcast (and what happened when a sponsor said yes before the first episode even dropped). Plus, if youâve been waiting for a sign to pitch your talk or grab your pass to Empowered Podcasting 2025, this is it. This newsletter is packed with stories, strategies, and a gentle nudge to go where the magic is: just outside your comfort zone.
đ¤ Discomfort Is the Assignment: What Improv Taught Me About Growth
When was the last time you did something uncomfortable⌠on purpose?
Last week, I stood on a stage for the first time since high schoolâwith no script, no plan, just improv and a shaky promise to roll with whatever came out of my mouth. It was uncomfortable. And that was exactly the point.
In a recent episode of the Podcasting Morning Chat, we cracked open the real talk about choosing discomfortânot for the content, not for the cloutâbut because it rewires something in us. From my own improv showcase (hello, dentist office sketch that almost bombed) to Dan Woerheide setting up a literal âIâm a coach, just talk to meâ sign at a coffee shop, we’re all about embracing the awkward to unlock deeper confidence, connection, and creativity.
We talked about:
- How podcasting gave me the reps to stay grounded on stage
- Why letting go of control is the real creative unlock
- What Danâs sign experiment reveals about judgment and visibility
- How discomfort isnât the thing to avoidâit is the work
- Why even extroverts squirm at true vulnerability
- Plus: poetry challenges, roller dance classes, fear of heights, and a quiet call to play more
Hereâs the truth: your next level isnât hiding in a how-to guide. Itâs probably sitting just past the thing that makes you cringe a little. Whether thatâs hitting record without a script, dancing sober at Beat Church (Iâm working up to it đŹ), or showing up without the polish⌠thatâs where real growth kicks in.
So Iâll leave you with the question we asked:
đ Whatâs one thing youâve doneâon purposeâthat made you uncomfortable?
Hit reply and share it with me. And if you’re feeling bold, go make today your next uncomfortable story worth telling.
âď¸ From Memes to Mic Drops: How âTwo Guys on a Planeâ Are Building a Brand That Flies
When two flight attendants with over 100K followers decide to launch a podcastâŚ
…you expect turbulence, champagne, and maybe some viral in-flight meltdowns.
But Rich and Drewâthe duo behind Two Guys on a Planeâare flipping the influencer narrative upside down.
They didnât go viral.
They didnât luck into fame.
And they definitely didnât âjust start a podcastâ because everyone else was doing it.
In fact, they almost didnât launch one at all.
Why? Because theyâre not âpodcast people.â
Not naturally, anyway.
But when a longtime sponsor approached them, before their podcast even existed, to say âwe want in,â they took it as a sign. Not a lucky break, but a signal: their audience wasnât just bigâit was ready.
In last weekâs episode of the Podcasting Morning Chat, Rich and Drew joined me to break down the real story behind their brand. They talked about:
- Why content that feels effortless actually takes hours (and yes, theyâre both glued to their phones)
- The secret sauce behind growing a loyal following without being cringey or salesy
- Why building community before you need it is what saved them after losing their Instagram account
- Their strategy for rolling out a podcast with both an audio launch and a video premiere party
- Why one of them edits at 1am (hi Rich đ), while the otherâs monitoring analytics mid-flight
Ohâand thereâs the part where Rich got recognized in a Paris grocery store while hoarding French butter. (Because priorities.)
More than anything, they reminded us that brand building isnât about going viralâitâs about showing up consistently, being deeply you, and treating your audience like the community it actually is.
đ¤Ready to Take the Mic? Empowered Podcasting 2025 Is Calling
Hereâs the dealâEmpowered Podcasting Conference 2025 is where indie podcasters come to get fired up, connect with their people, and walk away with real strategies they can actually use.
đď¸ If you’re planning to be there (and honestly, why wouldnât you be?), grab your ticket now. This isnât one of those huge, overwhelming events where you leave with a bunch of fluff and no plan. We keep it real, we keep it actionable, and yeahâwe keep it fun.
đď¸ And if you’ve got something to sayâsome behind-the-scenes gold, growth lessons, or creative magic to shareâwe’re taking speaker applications now. Step on that stage and speak to a room full of people who actually get it.
âď¸This is your room.
đ¤This is your moment.
đ¤Letâs do this together.
đ empoweredpodcasting.com for tickets and speaker apps.
đď¸Podcasting Morning Chat Highlightsđ
Welcome to your essential morning brew of ideas and insights, the “Podcasting Morning Chat” is a daily show that’s by creators, for creators. A dynamic team of experienced podcasters, entrepreneurs, and producers hosts the PMC. Each episode peels back the curtain on the art of podcasting and content creation. The conversation is a mix of insights, stories, and strategies, tailor-made to keep your content fresh, your audience engaged, and your creative spark alive.Â
Recorded live every weekday at 7 AM EST on Clubhouse and available via podcast at 7 AM PST, our show has become a cornerstone for podcasters worldwide, offering a unique blend of expert advice, real-world success stories, and innovative ideas. Whether you’re here to enhance your content, expand your audience, or just soak in the collective wisdom of fellow content creators, the PMC is your source for inspiration, empowerment and connection in the podcasting world.Â
Catch up with the latest episodes and join our global community of creators to kick-start your day with creativity, strategy, and insight.
- April 28, 2025: Episode #292: Creating Stronger Guest Intros to Keep Your Audience Hooked
- April 29, 2025: Episode #293: Building a Brand from Social Media to Podcasting with ‘Two Guys on a Plane’
- April 30, 2025: Episode #294: Netflix Eyes Podcasts, Descript Enhances AI & Spotify Boasts $100M Payouts
- May 1, 2025: Episode #295: Ways to be Comfortable being Uncomfortable
- May 2, 2025: Episode #296: The Truth About Feeling Exposed When You Share Your Podcast
Iâm so grateful to be connected with you and a part of your podcast journey.Â
All My Best,
đMarc Ronick
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