🎙️ Your Guest Is Selling. Your Audience Is Leaving.
👋Hey there Podcaster!
Last week on Podcasting Morning Chat we talked about guests who turn your show into an infomercial, the difference between editing audio and editing a story, and the one skill most podcasters never think to develop. There's a lot to get into, so let's go.
🎤Stop Guests From Turning Your Podcast Into an Infomercial
You can feel it within the first few minutes. Is this guest here to actually help people? Or are they just here to sell something?
A hostrecently came to our communitywith exactly this problem. Her guests kept weaving promotions into almost every single answer. And here's what surprised her about the response she got: everyone agreed the guest was the problem. But almost everyone also said the host shares the blame.
Ralph Estepput it plainly. If you haven't laid out a clear framework before the recording, you've left the door open. The pre-interview exists for exactly this reason. Tell the guest when they'll get to promote, what the show is there to do, and what happens if they overstep.Alex Balishmade the point that good guests actually ask the host upfront. They don't wait to be told.
Here's the thing: by the end of the episode, the audience should have organically developed an appreciation for the guest. If you've done your job, the plug at the end actually lands. But if every answer is a commercial? People check out. And you might finish the recording with almost nothing usable.
And if a guest still oversteps mid-recording, even after you've set the ground rules? You have every right to redirect. Something like: "I've noticed you've mentioned your app a few times. My audience tends to tune out when that happens. Let's focus on the conversation, and I promise we'll give you a proper moment at the end."
What do you do when a guest keeps over-promoting, even after you've set the rules?
✂️ There Are Two Kinds of Editing. Most Podcasters Only Know One.
Most people think podcast editing is just cleanup. Cut the ums. Tighten the pauses. Make it look and sound better. That's production editing.
But there's another kind of editing that almost never gets talked about.Content editing. That's shaping theexperience. It's deciding what stays, what goes, and sometimes what gets moved so the conversation actually lands the way it should for the listener. You don't need to do the editing yourself. But you should understand the difference.
Sid Meadowsmade the case that content editing should stay with the podcaster, not the editor. Only you know the original intent of the conversation. An outside editor can clean up the audio. But they don’t always know what you were trying to say when you said it.
If you're hiring help, know what you're paying for. Production editing is increasingly something AI tools can handle.Content editingis more of a human skill. It takes context, judgment, and a genuine understanding of your audience. That's worth paying for at a higher rate.
Do you think of yourself as an editor of your own show, or just a host?
👂 The Most Underrated Skill in Podcasting
This past weekI asked the PMC community a simple question: what's the most underrated skill every podcaster should have?
Ashley Fellersaid active listening. And she's right that it doesn't get talked about enough. Guests hand hosts moments of gold all the time, and most hosts walk right past them because they're too focused on getting to the next question.
Ralph Estepsaid relationship building. And then he said something that stuck with me. Share your scars. The moments you've struggled, the mistakes you've made, the things you're still working through. That's what people actually remember. Because when listeners feel genuinely connected to you, they'll keep coming back.
Knikki from our audience described a recent guest of hers who was famously stoic and guarded, someone who had admitted she didn't grow up in a culture where you show your emotions. She ended up crying on the show. That doesn't happen by accident. Knikki called it earning trust. And she's right. It's one of the most powerful things a host can do, and almost no one talks about it.
The technical stuff matters. But this is the stuff that actually builds a show people care about.
Which of these do you think is most underrated? Or share another podcasting skill you believe is underrated…
🎙️ Ready To Take Your Podcast To The Next Level?
I’d love to help. Through iRonick Media, my team and I offer audio and video production, content editing, and podcast coaching and consulting to help you create a show that sounds better, looks better, and connects more deeply with your audience. Whether you want hands-on support with production or expert guidance to help you grow, we can meet you where you are.
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🎙️Podcasting Morning Chat Highlights🌅
Welcome to your essential morning brew of ideas and insights. The Podcasting Morning Chat is a daily show that's by creators, for creators. Hosted by yours truly and a dynamic team of experienced creators, entrepreneurs, and producers, each episode peels back the curtain on the art and science of podcasting. Recorded live every weekday at 7 AM EST on Clubhouse, Youtube, LinkedIn (and more) and available via podcast at 7 AM PST, our show has become a cornerstone for podcasters worldwide, offering a unique blend of expert advice, real-world success stories, and innovative ideas. The PMC is your source for inspiration, empowerment, and actionable insights. Catch up with the latest episodes and join our global community of creators to kick-start your day with creativity, strategy, and insight.
Mon, Mar 2:464. Why This "Weird Facts" Show Is Impossible to Stop Listening To
Tues, Mar 3:465. Content Editing Is Where You Build the Listener Experience
Weds, Mar 4:466. Our Podcast Failed But This Question Saved It...Sorta!
Thurs, Mar 5:467. Stop Guests From Turning Your Podcast Into an Infomercial
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All My Best,
👋Marc Ronick
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